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Is hurting someone's feelings good reason to limit freedom of speech?
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Free speech is about ideas, about the right to have and express ideas right?
Well, the public space is the market where those ideas are traded. Think of platform owner as shopping malls owner in a market context. They offer you a space (that they own remember, not you) to display your ideas, there are many reason a shopping mall owner would refuse certain types of business to operate within their mall right? It would be a bad idea to allow a sex-club next to a kid oriented business for example...
It's not hypocrisy, it's usually market related though sometimes it's a personal value of the owner of the platform and since he owns it, he's free to establish any rule he wants... As a restaurant owner I'm free to throw out any customer I deem disruptive to my business...
If you want your idea to be seen in the market and no platform owner will allow your product to be offered there's only one alternative, build or buy your own platform...
If an idea is good enough, there will be a demand for it, if not well maybe one should realize there's something wrong about the idea to begin with...
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The internet, is its own type of an educational platform.
Various activists, advocates, the anti religious, the religious, the pro illegal drug crowd, the, (this or that matters crowds,) the crowds that questions the actions of law enforcement, but will be purposefully silent, when various crimes get committed by various career criminals, and offenders?
And protest some of law enforcement, but not the criminals, or the offenders?
Double standards, opinion oriented news, in the place of basic journalism?
Welcome to the artificial internet underground, classroom, 21st century style.
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Of course not, why would you think that? You missed the publicly displayed part... Those phone companies would be infringing not on free speech rights but privacy rights...
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The unexamined thought is not worth thinking.
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Ok, sorry... Well, as long as corporations are persons they have the same property rights as individuals... The problem really is the size of certain players in the market (Amazon, PayPal, etc), but even if those are split by government intervention, they still would have the same property rights as the former entities and would have the right to establish their own Terms of use and make them as restrictive as they want and so it doesn't solve the original problem...
A platform's identity and ability to attract an audience are determined by the activities they accept / cultivate, not vice versa. Infowars wanted to be on Facebook because it made it easier to sell your grandparents vitamin supplements, but Facebook felt that leaving them on make it a place families (and their grandparents) won't visit. Gab would like to use Stripe or Paypal because they are trusted payment providers, but those networks felt they'd stop being trusted payment providers if they let Gab stay on.
And there's plenty of reason to think they're right: super-permissive platforms exist and work (4chan et al.), they just don't attract the same broad audience. When people complain about being deplatformed, they're just saying "the platforms that accept me aren't popular enough". I'm glad our internet is enough of a distributed commons that many platforms are broadly accessible -- but nobody owes anyone an audience at the most popular ones.
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Yes, that's what I'm asking... What is the common problem with these, if any?
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My friend takes my sh*t and breaks it. I “hurt his feelings” because I called him an *insert random term*. If we limite free speech based upon that, I would be Punished.
yes I know this is very simplistic
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I still don't see how phone companies relate to this debate at all... Seems you're mixing multiple issues together, privacy issues, free speech issues, property issues...
Let's tackle them one at a time, let's start with crowdfunding service provider, if you don't like one, try another, what's the problem?? They should not have terms of use or what?? Give me a concrete example of where or how, you think a crowdfunding service provider could infringe on free speech.
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And anyway I was asking an example of where or how "crowdfunding companies" are/could be infringing on free speech right...
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First, terms of use are not free speech issues but property right issues...
Second, I don't think your question makes any sense... Are you really saying that you believe crowdfunding service providers can refuse anyone the use of their service based on religious or political beliefs? That crowdfunding service providers specifically ask and make it mandatory to provide religious or political affiliation at registration?? Now that could be problematic, especially the mandatory part, but I've yet to see a single case of this happening... If they don't ask specifically for this information at registration, then there's nothing to talk about, abide by the rules you agreed when you registered or be banned and try to register elsewhere where the rules are more permissive, simple really...
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See, you said "Yannapopoulos was booted off", not "was prevented from"... He was banned AFTER he broke the terms of use, he was not prevented from using the service in the first place... In other words, he threw himself out by his actions...
And still your question doesn't quite make sense... Here's how I'd answer your question... Neither phones companies or any other type of company can ask, in a mandatory way, your political or religious affiliation in order to allow registration as a user of the service they publicly offer... If any actually does that, which I highly doubt is happening, then you'd probably have a case to make in court...
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Ok, I'll slightly modify your question like this: Can a phone company demand the same terms and conditions that a web hosting company can demand? I'd answer yes.
What no company can do, is make it mandatory to give your political or religious affiliation in order to register as a user or to use a service... Either phone companies or web hosting ones, can ban any user if the user does not follow the terms and conditions of use after registration...
Phone company would have no ground to ban a user from talking on the phone, because those conversations are private.
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There, you finally acknowledge it, it's a privacy issue, not a free speech issue...
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Also another freedom we have due to the constitution privacy the right to free speech right to bear arms but at this point everything has been or trying to be taken away speak truth and Passionate Just have a little couth when you speak in public you’ll aloud to have an opinion we all have them and some of them just stink! But when you spew hate instead of factual basis it’s very inciting and then violence Escalates due to the fact your opinion is not excepted.
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